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		<title>By: Antonio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steph

Well if you really want people to get or listen to the GTP program first, I would put the BGTP program in to a RAR(winRAR) or similar file and then have it password protected and then place the password in the end of the GTP program. Off course you´ve to warn about the password and point it to the GTP before people buy it.
Hope that will clear that problem out for you.

Thank you Steph for making "this" it changed my life(for the better)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steph</p>
<p>Well if you really want people to get or listen to the GTP program first, I would put the BGTP program in to a RAR(winRAR) or similar file and then have it password protected and then place the password in the end of the GTP program. Off course you´ve to warn about the password and point it to the GTP before people buy it.<br />
Hope that will clear that problem out for you.</p>
<p>Thank you Steph for making &#8220;this&#8221; it changed my life(for the better)</p>
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		<title>By: RiffRaff</title>
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		<dc:creator>RiffRaff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My insight may not be that valuable because I don't own any of your products. However, I've been in the community for several years and just found your website last week. I've been reading posts and getting a feel for the products, as I'd like to purchase an introductory level product to get a sense of what you're about. It seems to me that the BGTP is the most advanced, but working backwards from there it's tough for me to deduce the advancement through the teachings. Perhaps you can offer customers a bit of a road map, if they are really serious about buying the BGTP offer your insight into how their progression should go. I plan to start with the intro CD and the Chakras. I figure that will be plenty for a long time, as far as I can tell that seems to be a solid foundation. Anyways, I would like to see a bit of a progression through your products laid out, and I expect other visitors may have this same desire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My insight may not be that valuable because I don&#8217;t own any of your products. However, I&#8217;ve been in the community for several years and just found your website last week. I&#8217;ve been reading posts and getting a feel for the products, as I&#8217;d like to purchase an introductory level product to get a sense of what you&#8217;re about. It seems to me that the BGTP is the most advanced, but working backwards from there it&#8217;s tough for me to deduce the advancement through the teachings. Perhaps you can offer customers a bit of a road map, if they are really serious about buying the BGTP offer your insight into how their progression should go. I plan to start with the intro CD and the Chakras. I figure that will be plenty for a long time, as far as I can tell that seems to be a solid foundation. Anyways, I would like to see a bit of a progression through your products laid out, and I expect other visitors may have this same desire.</p>
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		<title>By: Sierran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sierran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 06:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meant to say "more than you" rather than "more you" in the second to last paragraph
thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meant to say &#8220;more than you&#8221; rather than &#8220;more you&#8221; in the second to last paragraph<br />
thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Sierran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sierran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 06:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephane,
You have seen a potential problem here and are looking for a solution.  I don't know if you have made your decision yet, but I have some thoughts about it.  

I think that whatever course of action you take should be in line with a bigger plan for the program.  This plan may go beyond the current published material to stuff that is only in incubating form in your collective heads.  

I don't believe you can remove the program from the sales entirely now, the cat is out of the bag and you would only create a black market for the stuff.  There should be several qualifiers for customers of the product.  A much higher price should be required - perhaps 5 times as much for instance.  You might couple the purchase with required classes or some other form of direct interaction between yourself (or staff) and the customer.  If you see a potential form of misuse of the material, then perhaps a written usage agreement could be part of the package (something more involved than clicking a button).  

Ultimately, I believe you are looking to ensure that a person is committed to the advancement of their conscious states, more you want to maintain some control of the growth of the methods.  Perhaps this requires more information and training at the lower levels, to more people in general.  Perhaps you can step downward and offer a different route to reach a courageous level.

Hope that helps.  I think this kind of advice (from all of your friends, above) is hard to compensate - nor does it necessarily require a specific value in attempt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephane,<br />
You have seen a potential problem here and are looking for a solution.  I don&#8217;t know if you have made your decision yet, but I have some thoughts about it.  </p>
<p>I think that whatever course of action you take should be in line with a bigger plan for the program.  This plan may go beyond the current published material to stuff that is only in incubating form in your collective heads.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe you can remove the program from the sales entirely now, the cat is out of the bag and you would only create a black market for the stuff.  There should be several qualifiers for customers of the product.  A much higher price should be required - perhaps 5 times as much for instance.  You might couple the purchase with required classes or some other form of direct interaction between yourself (or staff) and the customer.  If you see a potential form of misuse of the material, then perhaps a written usage agreement could be part of the package (something more involved than clicking a button).  </p>
<p>Ultimately, I believe you are looking to ensure that a person is committed to the advancement of their conscious states, more you want to maintain some control of the growth of the methods.  Perhaps this requires more information and training at the lower levels, to more people in general.  Perhaps you can step downward and offer a different route to reach a courageous level.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.  I think this kind of advice (from all of your friends, above) is hard to compensate - nor does it necessarily require a specific value in attempt.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.ideagasms.net/should-i-stop-selling-the-bgtp/#comment-1331</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 05:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Steph,

If you feel that the high-level teachings are being compromised by being too easily accessible, then by all means introduce a buyer-screening system! 

You already mentioned that ninja ways are not for those in their first judo class. We could mention other skill-learning processes, like driving-- you don't give a 16 year old kid who's barely learned to handle the family car a FORMULA ONE RACE CAR! And likewise first time meditators aren't admitted to three-month solo retreats, nor are college freshmen normally admitted to gradute level-seminars! No, there are years of pre-requisites to work through... and convincing letters of intention to be written!

Especially if you feel that the groundwork (eg, developing maturity, unconditional compassion for others, and foundational relationship experience) is being skipped by some of your buyer/students, then some more involvement on your part is needed in these higher levels. 

Like Hypnotica says  "I don't teach this stuff to just anyone." 

btw, just looking at your site for the first time today. Awesome! Im new to the whole science and art of PU-ology... what a fascinating world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Steph,</p>
<p>If you feel that the high-level teachings are being compromised by being too easily accessible, then by all means introduce a buyer-screening system! </p>
<p>You already mentioned that ninja ways are not for those in their first judo class. We could mention other skill-learning processes, like driving&#8211; you don&#8217;t give a 16 year old kid who&#8217;s barely learned to handle the family car a FORMULA ONE RACE CAR! And likewise first time meditators aren&#8217;t admitted to three-month solo retreats, nor are college freshmen normally admitted to gradute level-seminars! No, there are years of pre-requisites to work through&#8230; and convincing letters of intention to be written!</p>
<p>Especially if you feel that the groundwork (eg, developing maturity, unconditional compassion for others, and foundational relationship experience) is being skipped by some of your buyer/students, then some more involvement on your part is needed in these higher levels. </p>
<p>Like Hypnotica says  &#8220;I don&#8217;t teach this stuff to just anyone.&#8221; </p>
<p>btw, just looking at your site for the first time today. Awesome! Im new to the whole science and art of PU-ology&#8230; what a fascinating world!</p>
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		<title>By: Hannah</title>
		<link>http://www.ideagasms.net/should-i-stop-selling-the-bgtp/#comment-1323</link>
		<dc:creator>Hannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 03:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, I definitely don't think you should stop selling the BGTP entirely... that stuff is golden! But I agree with many of the other people who have replied to this; there should definitely be some sort of pre-screening... honestly, 98% of guys out there will have no idea what to do with it anyway :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, I definitely don&#8217;t think you should stop selling the BGTP entirely&#8230; that stuff is golden! But I agree with many of the other people who have replied to this; there should definitely be some sort of pre-screening&#8230; honestly, 98% of guys out there will have no idea what to do with it anyway <img src='http://www.ideagasms.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jess</title>
		<link>http://www.ideagasms.net/should-i-stop-selling-the-bgtp/#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 23:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the heart is another entity, can't really be described only felt, who knows what one might find in the process of discovering ourselves, like say goodbye to control and just embrace.. and it will show in our feedback.. less head based and more touching. how will you go about noticing which is which?
thank you.. jess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the heart is another entity, can&#8217;t really be described only felt, who knows what one might find in the process of discovering ourselves, like say goodbye to control and just embrace.. and it will show in our feedback.. less head based and more touching. how will you go about noticing which is which?<br />
thank you.. jess</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.ideagasms.net/should-i-stop-selling-the-bgtp/#comment-1321</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 20:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having purchased and listened to both, I think it should be a prerequisite to have the GTP FIRST.
You have to walk before you can run.
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having purchased and listened to both, I think it should be a prerequisite to have the GTP FIRST.<br />
You have to walk before you can run.<br /> <img src='http://www.ideagasms.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 19:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as strictly from a point of your ethical decisions...
I second the person that says calibrate it.  You could
probably calibrate if a person should have the BGTP faster
than reading thier application.  Have them apply, but instead 
of focusing on the application, just calibrate it to see if 
should be approved or not.  

Now from a business perspective I might see a negative with this.
The only downside I see of this would be expense as I'm sure
you will have to spend a lot of money to have people calibrate
for you all the time.  Usually the process of people buying
products online is automated and at no expense.  

I would also raise the price of it.  This way you will get much
more serious people, not so many "samplers".  The more expensive
it is the more people will value it as well.  I think this alone
will raise the quality of customers.  But then to further refine
it, calibration if it is affordable gets my vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as strictly from a point of your ethical decisions&#8230;<br />
I second the person that says calibrate it.  You could<br />
probably calibrate if a person should have the BGTP faster<br />
than reading thier application.  Have them apply, but instead<br />
of focusing on the application, just calibrate it to see if<br />
should be approved or not.  </p>
<p>Now from a business perspective I might see a negative with this.<br />
The only downside I see of this would be expense as I&#8217;m sure<br />
you will have to spend a lot of money to have people calibrate<br />
for you all the time.  Usually the process of people buying<br />
products online is automated and at no expense.  </p>
<p>I would also raise the price of it.  This way you will get much<br />
more serious people, not so many &#8220;samplers&#8221;.  The more expensive<br />
it is the more people will value it as well.  I think this alone<br />
will raise the quality of customers.  But then to further refine<br />
it, calibration if it is affordable gets my vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 16:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it were my program, I would simply ask the user a few question along the lines of NLP based professional coaching. 

What are your intentions for utilizing the information in this product?

How do you / would you engage with women in a bar or nightclub?

Where would you like to meet / find / pick up women who would be capable of this lifestyle?

When would you be ready to use the information contained in this product?

What steps do you see as neccessary steps for your advancement into the levels of consciousness that will allow a circle to develop in your life?

Describe to me your idea of what a relationship circle consists of? 

What types of women do you think are ready for a cirlce?

...

I know that in NLP based coaching they talk about getting in the zone and being able to design unique questions that will unlock the true intentions behind the individual. In my experience, coaching is generally done on a person to person basis, over the phone, or in person due to the reliance on  voice inflections and micro-expressions in the face to determine the line of questioning. 

Now that is what I would do, but I have lots of time on my hands. As I was writing this I thought of another solution that may fit your system better. 

Steph, I think that the BGTP is a complex program with many complex and different people looking to buy it, I believe that to screen the applicants you or someone with IG will have to speak to them directly (phone or face) or you will simply have to base your decision in your own intuition. 

Personally I feel that your intuition is at a level enabling you to judge the character of the applicant and decide as soon as you see the order whether or not this particular person is eligable (like a restaraunt owner turning away someone without any clothes on).

I believe that if you took this stance it would save you time, energy, and money; as well as heartache and arguments over the students who are completely missing the point of what you are teaching. You simply reserve the right to refuse to sell the BGTP anyone who wants it. Just like any other business.  

Setting benchmarks of posts, or questionaires, or even coaching clients can be misleading or manipulative because people can think or do whatever they want to get whatever they want. I think that you already knew the answer to this question, but I'm glad that I have had the opportunity to possibly get a free copy of the BGTP, I think I might of bought it, but I trashed all my IG products when I went through the "I hate the teacher that taught me that I can learn best from myself" phase a few months ago. Anyway bro, you will come to the right conclusions on this complicated matter. 

Peace and Chicken Grease,

Timothy "Peter Pan" Schimandle

PS: I win :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were my program, I would simply ask the user a few question along the lines of NLP based professional coaching. </p>
<p>What are your intentions for utilizing the information in this product?</p>
<p>How do you / would you engage with women in a bar or nightclub?</p>
<p>Where would you like to meet / find / pick up women who would be capable of this lifestyle?</p>
<p>When would you be ready to use the information contained in this product?</p>
<p>What steps do you see as neccessary steps for your advancement into the levels of consciousness that will allow a circle to develop in your life?</p>
<p>Describe to me your idea of what a relationship circle consists of? </p>
<p>What types of women do you think are ready for a cirlce?</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>I know that in NLP based coaching they talk about getting in the zone and being able to design unique questions that will unlock the true intentions behind the individual. In my experience, coaching is generally done on a person to person basis, over the phone, or in person due to the reliance on  voice inflections and micro-expressions in the face to determine the line of questioning. </p>
<p>Now that is what I would do, but I have lots of time on my hands. As I was writing this I thought of another solution that may fit your system better. </p>
<p>Steph, I think that the BGTP is a complex program with many complex and different people looking to buy it, I believe that to screen the applicants you or someone with IG will have to speak to them directly (phone or face) or you will simply have to base your decision in your own intuition. </p>
<p>Personally I feel that your intuition is at a level enabling you to judge the character of the applicant and decide as soon as you see the order whether or not this particular person is eligable (like a restaraunt owner turning away someone without any clothes on).</p>
<p>I believe that if you took this stance it would save you time, energy, and money; as well as heartache and arguments over the students who are completely missing the point of what you are teaching. You simply reserve the right to refuse to sell the BGTP anyone who wants it. Just like any other business.  </p>
<p>Setting benchmarks of posts, or questionaires, or even coaching clients can be misleading or manipulative because people can think or do whatever they want to get whatever they want. I think that you already knew the answer to this question, but I&#8217;m glad that I have had the opportunity to possibly get a free copy of the BGTP, I think I might of bought it, but I trashed all my IG products when I went through the &#8220;I hate the teacher that taught me that I can learn best from myself&#8221; phase a few months ago. Anyway bro, you will come to the right conclusions on this complicated matter. </p>
<p>Peace and Chicken Grease,</p>
<p>Timothy &#8220;Peter Pan&#8221; Schimandle</p>
<p>PS: I win <img src='http://www.ideagasms.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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