Reader Question & Comments:
I thought I’d ask your thoughts on a conversation I’ve had with a friend a few times.
I have a girl that I’d dated a while, but we broke it off due to how far we lived apart.
We now live closer, so have been talking about dating again. Anyway we have all sorts of conversations. Last night we were talking, have had the same conversation before, and got onto the subject of threesomes. She’s had the experience of being with women before a few times. Well I had expressed my interest, as I would not mind at all having a little circle.Anyway got to talking and she had mentioned some discussion she’d had with a group of friends. They were talking about girls being with girls and one of the guys made a comment saying he would like watching, but wouldn’t want to take part, unless it was only with his woman, or once the other girl left. I’d said that watching would be fun, but taking part would be nice as well. She’d gone on about how you don’t hear many guys say they’d just watch and not wanna take part with the other girl.
Well then it kinda went on to if another girl can join what about another guy.
I’m not interested in other guys at all, I’m all Oak tree. I’m all for lots of lovey dovey cuddling and love making with a couple of beautiful women, but have no interest for another guy to be there.She was saying it was because I was jealous or I don’t want a naked guy there, and things of that nature. I told her nope, I just have no interest in another guy being there. You know what I mean. Dragonbutter is icky.
Anyway she just keeps going on about well then could have a couple, a guy and girl, well I’m still not interested in that because there’s a guy. I try to get through to her that with a guy and two girls, it’s all about love, everyone is enjoying each other, everyone kissing each other things of that nature, the great cuddling, and such. With a guy thrown in, there’s none of that. I’m sure not gonna cuddle with a guy *chuckles*
Towards the end of the conversation she was a bit grumpy because I was being “stubborn”.
Said I wasn’t open to ideas and opinions. I said I’m always very open to those things, just not concerning other guys in the bedroom.I know she’s interested in women as she’s been with a few, but what’s the deal with this insistence of having another guy join in if we were to find a girl to join in. (I wouldn’t mind finding a long term girl to join in *laughs*)
Anyway I thought it might make an interesting topic for the newsletter.
Wish I’d have saved the conversation so I could have sent it to you so you’d have it to read.
Johnny
Yes, a lot of women are arrogant douchebags when it comes to this stuff, however, “Father please forgive them, for they know not what they say”, as Jesus might have put it.
What they don’t understand is that we men typically have an AVERSION to being sexual with other men. The very thought of gay sex seems DISGUSTING to most of us, myself included.
While it’s easy to point the finger and go, “You’re just HOMOPHOBIC! You’re not OPEN! You’re just JEALOUS!” what this girl is lacking is a little humility and EMPATHY. Not to mention a simple and basic education about the nature of Yang energy.
Although it’s now considered “politically incorrect” to admit that gay sex makes us feel “icky”, it’s a plain-and-simple FACT about the majority of men.
If we look at sperm-war dynamics, male sperm actually kills other male sperm. Yang energy is COMPETITIVE, not “cuddly”. In some cases, men are wired differently and possess none of the “icky” feelings we were programmed to have, but those men seem rare.
The main issue I get from women about all of this threesome and Circle stuff is simply, “It’s not FAIR that you don’t ALLOW your girls to fuck other men!”
Notice the language, the words “fair” and “allow”. The term Consenting Adults seems to be way over our heads in this ignorant society.
I just got another douche-baggy comment from a woman today who said something like, “I don’t know why you FEEL THE NEED to create the term Interdependent Circle when all you are TRULY doing is living the Poly lifestyle!”
Again, note the arrogant languaging, the presumptions that she knows what I’m doing in my personal life and how the girls and I use the 24 hours that Creator gives us each day.
I don’t “feel the need” to make up new words, I have simply CHOSEN to do so. Now, the reason I use the word Interdependent is because that is our goal, we wish to achieve that state. This means we literally have to transcend the biggest and most difficult issues that couples face (e.g., jealousy, fear-of-abandonment, anger, projection, denial, guilt, shame).
The Poly lifestyle is about multiple partners, yes… but are the people in those communities sincerely attempting to transcend the toughest ego issues that exist? Not usually. From what I hear, it usually turns into big lust & drama fests, not unlike most relationships today.
And I use the word Circle because it’s CUTE… think of me and three girls holding hands and forming a Circle… Cute and fuzzy stuff, no?
(And, I want to avoid getting slotted in with ‘triangles’ and ‘harems’ and all of the other poly lifestyles that actually FEED on ego rather than seek to understand, honor, and move beyond it. I’m not saying ALL poly lifestyles are like this, I am saying that MANY are, but it depends on the open heart factor. Currently 0.4% of the population stands in Compassion, so let me even go as far as to say that MOST poly lifestyles are not comparable to Interdependent Circles.)
To build and maintain an actual real-life Interdependent Circle where one man actually pushes two queen-sized beds together and LIVES with 2 or 3 women IN HARMONY? The ability to pull this off means that you are very seriously learning relationship dynamics mastery of the highest order. I feel the term “Interdependent Circle” kind of implies this. It’s the spiritual pursuit of unconditional love, anything less and the Circle will be filled with drama, lies, bullshit.
Now, another issue is this thing about supposed “gender equality” and again, we’re of equal value, but we’re not equal beings.
I like to take my cues from nature, and when you look to what I call “caveman/cavewoman programming” (male/female sexual and ego dynamics), a simple look into this will reveal that usually, a woman in a Circle such as mine doesn’t actually WANT another guy in the Circle, because it simply wouldn’t feel natural.
Who’s lead would they follow? Mine or his?
As we can see, unless there is a basic understand of Sexual Polarity, these women do not qualify to have a discussion about Interdependent Circle relationship dynamics. Until basic understandings can be reached, all we’ll get from these women are arrogant, presumptive, emotionalized positionalities and opinionation. This is like trying to discuss quantum mechanics with a 10 year old kid.
Alright, listen up:
I’m working on a simple Interdependent Circle FAQ, it will include answers to many typical questions, along with a short video of myself and the girls answering questions and joking around and making fun of all the douchy women who don’t realize that I’m doing more for women and feminism than they ever will.
So, those of you that have questions and comments, please send them to stephane@ideagasms.net
One more thing, you’re going to start hearing from Ghita and Greta pretty soon, so if you have questions for them, shoot.
Blessings,
Stephane

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Ghita and Greta rule, WOO! Bring ‘em on!
Yeah, the lack of empathy women show when they ask this “why can’t there be two men” question is pretty astounding. It SEEMS so LOGICAL to the idiot mind, but take one step back and the sheer ridiculousness of it just presents itself. xD God, I love humans.
I am glad im not the only person who cant see why two men and a woman as an illogical group. I am homophobic and thourght it was only that that made me see it that way.
LMAO. I love it and think it’s hilarious when Steph puts people in their place with assertive compassion.
“Yeah, we love you too, you arrogant douchebags. Even when your a pain in the ass. It’s annoying… but kinda cute because you are so confused and need so much work. Do you need a hug? Come here and let Wikkid give ya some lovin’. *lets her go and turns her around* Now, go and find someone else to manipulate. *playfully spanks her on the ass* That’s a good girl. What? Yes, I know. I’m an ass, but you love me because you can’t control me and it confuses and intrigues you. But you can’t handle me, so go… before I beat your ass with this hear plastic drinking straw.”
Women. They are so beautiful, esspecially on the inside more than they even realize. *Sighs*
From what you say, I can’t exclude the possibility of a circle with more men than woman. If the persons with a penis have polarised towards Yin, and the woman towards Yang, and they are all okay with that, there could be a gap in the reasoning for turned around circles.
I don’t think they will happen though.
Hey, this is a great post full of love and understanding, I have to agree that a stable unit such as what you developed with Greta and Ghita is something of a dream I’ve been working towards realising for so long, and I often have my girl’s friends live with us and it always ends with my girl getting flustered for no reason.
Now, I think the circle idea is a very natural way, and the hang ups my girl has would probably disappear if the three of us shared more of ourselves, simply because that would be pure sharing and with all that would come further caring and laughter and I’m sure much more joy and love. One of the things I truly desire to raise my girl’s, our guest and my own conciouness.
The world would be such a better place with lots more circles.
Thanks for existing, y’all!
“If you (the man) get validation because you’re making sex with 2 women, why can’t the women be with 2 guys (and get also validation)?”
That’s what their thinking… because for them a man just wants to be with 2 women to feel like an “all-attractive super-powerfull mighty-PUA guy” and feel validated.
So the woman’s ego starts to feel like he’s missing something (validation) and comes up with a defensive mechanism called “hey, if you can get validation from 2 women through sex, why can’t I get validation from 2 men through sex at the same time??? Why do I have to be the inferior and you the one who gets all the special experience of validation???”
We must have Compassion for them, because this (ego) actually make them suffer daily. Everyday… living with low self-esteem, insecurity and a constant need and hunger for validation (I call it “emotional charity”).
Follow your Heart,
Pedro Constantino